Fully Human, Fully Christian: Joy, Calling, and the Good Life
In this episode, Dr. J talks with Dr. Michael Wittmer—pastor, professor of theology, and professional taker-of-fun-seriously—about the big question few Christians say out loud: Can I serve Jesus and still enjoy my life? (Spoiler: Yes. And you should.)
Pulling from his book Becoming Worldly Saints, Wittmer challenges the tired assumption that “holy” and “enjoyment” are mutually exclusive. Together, he and Justin dive into the tensions many believers feel between heaven and earth, calling and career, joy and guilt, grilled meat and spiritual disciplines. You know—the usual.
With theological depth and just enough irreverence to keep things interesting, they explore why our desire for good food, real friendships, and laughs isn’t a distraction from faith—it might actually be part of it. They take aim at Gnostic and legalistic tendencies in church culture, offer a few needed corrections to pop spirituality, and make a solid case for living fully human, not just ‘spiritually sanitized.’
If you’ve ever felt guilty for loving your life—or confused about how your weekday existence fits into God’s big plan—this one’s for you. Come for the theology, stay for the common sense. And maybe laugh once or twice along the way.
- Book: Becoming Worldly Saints: Can You Serve Jesus and Still Enjoy Your Life?
- BLOG: https://mikewittmer.blog/
- Website: https://www.cornerstone.edu/faculty/michael-wittmer/